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01/28/2012 A Very Cross Examination

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All I can say is WOW,.... I have thought that about quite a few doctors and psychiatrists in my past. Oh and Oprah of course!



edit: Sorry, guess I forgot the annoying "First". I'll do better next time I promise! :D

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Props and respect to the team for addressing this topic.
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Rayne is an asshole against everyone, I see.
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Heh. Can see they've thrown censoring out the window.
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The fuck is this shit?!
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So curious since I cant recall seeing anything about it. When/why did Sohmer/Lars decide to quit censoring the word fuck? I remember they originally uncensored just for that one arc for the seriousness of it, but lately it seems that theyve just chosen to not censor it.
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Batman is having sex with Catwoman. So I don't get why can't Rayne say fuck.

I know that it's been censored in the past, but I just don't think there's any reason to anymore. This comic isn't for children, with or without the censorship.
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To be fair, for a comic that was for its five years solely about shagging, it seems a bit odd it was ever censored.
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Honestly I'm with Rayne, We have this story arc but he still seems just like his happy normal self. Honestly I don't like the idea of him being depressed, cause then it's like 95% of my High School all over again. Emotional range is good, but depression can be annoying to listen too (On the Entertainment category). He just does not seem like a depressed person.
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Aaaaaand, that felt like a Family Guy-style joke. I get that this arc is finally trying to lead somewhere in Rayne's character progression chart, I do, but the time it takes to get there is mind-numbingly long. Remember when arcs used to take a week to develop? I get that the comic can take longer-than-a-week arcs for important issues with the characters, but at this point do we really need all these (quite honestly) filler jokes?

Brevity is the soul of wit.

If you're gonna say the comic is comedy-centered at this point, sure, fair enough, but I believe a not-so-straight continuity works best for comedy centered strips. Just look at Penny-Arcade or Garfield.

This has always been a nice mash-up of comedy and character-driven comic, though. I feel like the turn-up of this arc will not stand the build-up.

My 2 cents, anyway.
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View PostJZPotter, on 28 January 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

Honestly I'm with Rayne, We have this story arc but he still seems just like his happy normal self. Honestly I don't like the idea of him being depressed, cause then it's like 95% of my High School all over again. Emotional range is good, but depression can be annoying to listen too (On the Entertainment category). He just does not seem like a depressed person.


I respectfully disagree. There is a difference between being a "shit" which Rayne sang about(), and having mild clinical depression.

As for the depression thing, Rayne is a very smart person(not mature, just smart) he'll keep on top of his medication(and probably has), and so we won't have to deal with the stupid soap storylines revolving around him skipping his meds. You should probably look at what depression really is before you throw it in to the same lot as the emo crowd.
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This is the first time I've noticed the fuck-words go uncensored for a little while. I think that Sohmer was trying to convey that Rayne is feeling pretty cornered and as such is becoming hostile towards other people trying to help him.

As for all of you complaining about more than a week-long story arc, most of the time I've felt that those week-long story arcs aren't long enough, and it isn't a good way to tell a story in only 5 strips. If you notice, there's a progressive falling into becoming aggressive with Rayne here, and he's acting the same type of childish as when Marcy got a date.

Also, Rayne doesn't seem like a depressed guy, but that's likely because of hiding it. Rather the depression would culminate in other forms that don't revolve around being a mopey ass. E.G. the stomach aches he was complaining about in the first place.
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View Postbarysnikov, on 28 January 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

View PostJZPotter, on 28 January 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

Honestly I'm with Rayne, We have this story arc but he still seems just like his happy normal self. Honestly I don't like the idea of him being depressed, cause then it's like 95% of my High School all over again. Emotional range is good, but depression can be annoying to listen too (On the Entertainment category). He just does not seem like a depressed person.


I respectfully disagree. There is a difference between being a "shit" which Rayne sang about(), and having mild clinical depression.

As for the depression thing, Rayne is a very smart person(not mature, just smart) he'll keep on top of his medication(and probably has), and so we won't have to deal with the stupid soap storylines revolving around him skipping his meds. You should probably look at what depression really is before you throw it in to the same lot as the emo crowd.

Trust me, I can tell the difference. One of my good friends has dealt with depression since he was 13 when his Gf died. He's blamed himself, even though it's impossible for him to be at fault.
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View PostJZPotter, on 28 January 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

View Postbarysnikov, on 28 January 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

View PostJZPotter, on 28 January 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

Honestly I'm with Rayne, We have this story arc but he still seems just like his happy normal self. Honestly I don't like the idea of him being depressed, cause then it's like 95% of my High School all over again. Emotional range is good, but depression can be annoying to listen too (On the Entertainment category). He just does not seem like a depressed person.


I respectfully disagree. There is a difference between being a "shit" which Rayne sang about(), and having mild clinical depression.

As for the depression thing, Rayne is a very smart person(not mature, just smart) he'll keep on top of his medication(and probably has), and so we won't have to deal with the stupid soap storylines revolving around him skipping his meds. You should probably look at what depression really is before you throw it in to the same lot as the emo crowd.

Trust me, I can tell the difference. One of my good friends has dealt with depression since he was 13 when his Gf died. He's blamed himself, even though it's impossible for him to be at fault.


That's a totally different thing altogether. If he blames himself it's more akin to survivors guilt. A different kind of depression from what is depicted here. This is most likely chemical.
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Edit: double post

This post has been edited by barysnikov: 28 January 2012 - 03:48 PM

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View Postdaniboy, on 28 January 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:

Aaaaaand, that felt like a Family Guy-style joke. I get that this arc is finally trying to lead somewhere in Rayne's character progression chart, I do, but the time it takes to get there is mind-numbingly long. Remember when arcs used to take a week to develop? I get that the comic can take longer-than-a-week arcs for important issues with the characters, but at this point do we really need all these (quite honestly) filler jokes?

Brevity is the soul of wit.

If you're gonna say the comic is comedy-centered at this point, sure, fair enough, but I believe a not-so-straight continuity works best for comedy centered strips. Just look at Penny-Arcade or Garfield.

This has always been a nice mash-up of comedy and character-driven comic, though. I feel like the turn-up of this arc will not stand the build-up.

My 2 cents, anyway.


I agree with this entire post, lol. Nicely done sir. So now we have 4 cents! Hell yeah, we're rich!

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View Postbarysnikov, on 28 January 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

View PostJZPotter, on 28 January 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

View Postbarysnikov, on 28 January 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

View PostJZPotter, on 28 January 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

Honestly I'm with Rayne, We have this story arc but he still seems just like his happy normal self. Honestly I don't like the idea of him being depressed, cause then it's like 95% of my High School all over again. Emotional range is good, but depression can be annoying to listen too (On the Entertainment category). He just does not seem like a depressed person.


I respectfully disagree. There is a difference between being a "shit" which Rayne sang about(), and having mild clinical depression.

As for the depression thing, Rayne is a very smart person(not mature, just smart) he'll keep on top of his medication(and probably has), and so we won't have to deal with the stupid soap storylines revolving around him skipping his meds. You should probably look at what depression really is before you throw it in to the same lot as the emo crowd.

Trust me, I can tell the difference. One of my good friends has dealt with depression since he was 13 when his Gf died. He's blamed himself, even though it's impossible for him to be at fault.


That's a totally different thing altogether. If he blames himself it's more akin to survivors guilt. A different kind of depression from what is depicted here. This is most likely chemical.

It's not survivors guilt, he wasn't there with her during the accident.
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Ah classic "my problem isn't the main problem, your problems are my main problem" argument.... :blink:
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View PostJZPotter, on 28 January 2012 - 05:04 PM, said:

View Postbarysnikov, on 28 January 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

View PostJZPotter, on 28 January 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

View Postbarysnikov, on 28 January 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

View PostJZPotter, on 28 January 2012 - 09:50 AM, said:

Honestly I'm with Rayne, We have this story arc but he still seems just like his happy normal self. Honestly I don't like the idea of him being depressed, cause then it's like 95% of my High School all over again. Emotional range is good, but depression can be annoying to listen too (On the Entertainment category). He just does not seem like a depressed person.


I respectfully disagree. There is a difference between being a "shit" which Rayne sang about(), and having mild clinical depression.

As for the depression thing, Rayne is a very smart person(not mature, just smart) he'll keep on top of his medication(and probably has), and so we won't have to deal with the stupid soap storylines revolving around him skipping his meds. You should probably look at what depression really is before you throw it in to the same lot as the emo crowd.

Trust me, I can tell the difference. One of my good friends has dealt with depression since he was 13 when his Gf died. He's blamed himself, even though it's impossible for him to be at fault.


That's a totally different thing altogether. If he blames himself it's more akin to survivors guilt. A different kind of depression from what is depicted here. This is most likely chemical.

It's not survivors guilt, he wasn't there with her during the accident.


It's not necessary to be there for the survivor's guilt to kick in. Though I guess nobody will read this reply.

P.S. If they do, make that 6cents. I agree completely with the already-four-cents group (read the posts above).
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View PostThoadthetoad, on 28 January 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

This is the first time I've noticed the fuck-words go uncensored for a little while. I think that Sohmer was trying to convey that Rayne is feeling pretty cornered and as such is becoming hostile towards other people trying to help him.

As for all of you complaining about more than a week-long story arc, most of the time I've felt that those week-long story arcs aren't long enough, and it isn't a good way to tell a story in only 5 strips. If you notice, there's a progressive falling into becoming aggressive with Rayne here, and he's acting the same type of childish as when Marcy got a date.

Also, Rayne doesn't seem like a depressed guy, but that's likely because of hiding it. Rather the depression would culminate in other forms that don't revolve around being a mopey ass. E.G. the stomach aches he was complaining about in the first place.


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