Spyware removal/prevention A discussion
#1
Posted 22 August 2005 - 05:48 PM
Virusscan programs
Free AVG Antivirus
Anti Spyware programs
AdAware
Spybot
Spyshield
CWShredder
Hijack this
Pest patrol (no free version available)
Spyware Blaster
Spyware Doctor
Microsoft Anti-Spyware Tool
HouseCall
Other resources
Process Library--Here you can check to see if those running processes that you have no idea about are system processes or malicious tasks.
WinPatrol
#2
Posted 25 August 2005 - 10:34 PM
Bah, stop encouraging that. Somewhere along the line of Windows updates they fixed most of the security issues. I never get any adware anymore, and I use IE all the time.
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And then he says to me
"Kill me now, kill me now, kill me now"
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#3
Posted 25 August 2005 - 11:26 PM
They're the next ones (after all the ones you've listed) that I'm getting when I get the internet back on my computer at home.
-Me
-Mizafim
#4
Posted 26 August 2005 - 01:21 AM
--Virgil’s Aeneid
I will not make any deals with you. I’ve resigned. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
--No. 6, The Prisoner
Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?
--Sir Bedevere to King Arthur
#5
Posted 26 August 2005 - 01:45 AM
I'll defer to Siwelwerd on this one for the final word (He is the tech Mod after all
But I shall leave you with this analogy. It's like protection when having sex. The pill is good. A condom is good. Both is better.
-Me
-Mizafim
#6
Posted 26 August 2005 - 01:53 AM
#7
Posted 26 August 2005 - 05:17 AM
siwelwerd isn't wrong, though. MSIE, for many reasons, is particularly susceptable to malware. It's great that you've never been infected, but millions of MSIE users have, even with all of Microsoft's patches applied. Because of the way that Microsoft chose to integrate MSIE into the operating system, the way it hides its resources in obscurely named registry keys, and such leave it particularly vulnerable. You are correct in that recent security patches have made it more difficult for an attacker to exploit a security hole in MSIE, however, MSIE has many functions that, when used as they are intended to be used, can leave you open to malware. Most adware/spyware that infects MSIE doesn't blow buffers or exploit obscure holes, but instead use the basic API that MSIE provides.
#8
Posted 26 August 2005 - 06:23 AM
Do bear in mind there are two types of spyware prevention program: Ad-Aware, for example, has to be run at intervals and detects and clears up infections after they have happened. SpywareBlaster and Spybot's resident stop infections occurring in the first place.
And don't forget to update your spyware detector's and your anti-virus software's signatures regularly.
We'll get there
Take your time
Don't walk so fast
Stay on the road - Walkin' the Blues, by Willie Dixon
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#9
Posted 26 August 2005 - 06:24 AM
I'm glad you haven't had problems. I kept up on my updates, and still had a ton (and I don't visit a whole lot of sites). Since switching to Firefox, it's pretty much nil. Do you use anything else?
I know that there are things that AdAware doesn't find that Spybot does... And things that both of them don't find that Spyware doctor has found. So..... Can't say that it would hurt, I don't think.
#10
Posted 26 August 2005 - 09:02 AM
Well, regardless, I'm happy with how I'm set up.
And only she can set him free
And then he says to me
"Kill me now, kill me now, kill me now"
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#11
Posted 26 August 2005 - 03:24 PM
Like Kat mentioned, they don't find exactly the same things. There is quite a bit of overlap, but most people tend to have 2 or 3 programs installed. The combo I (and a lot of other people) use is AdAware/Spybot, but depending on your browsing habits others may work better for you.
And don't forget to update your spyware detector's and your anti-virus software's signatures regularly.
I would hesitate to even call it two types of spyware prevention--I would call the two categories prevention and treatment, with Adaware falling in the treatment category and the latter two programs you mentioned as preventative measures.
I also want to emphasize your second point, because it is critical--out of date definitions are only marginally better than no protection at all.
Well, regardless, I'm happy with how I'm set up.
I don't doubt that you use IE and don't have any of the "classic" problems with it--I never really had any of those problems when I used it either. I think a lot of it has to do with browsing habits. However, the general consensus is that you are in the minority, and for the majority of people, switching off of IE does decrease the amount of spyware/malware, so it is worth mentioning here.
#12
Posted 26 August 2005 - 05:36 PM
Other than that I have Spybot and Adaware, but I only scan monthly because MS's program is so good at picking everything up. I also have McAfee AntiVirus, which picks up on some spyware, but isn't exactly something to completely rely on.
#13
Posted 26 August 2005 - 06:36 PM
Norton finds stuff sometimes, too. Never gets rid of it, but it finds it. Sad thing is, it tells ME how to get rid of it when I go to the site. I can never find it where it tells me, and if I run Spybot/AdAware afterwards, it doesn't come up the next time Norton runs.
#14
Posted 28 August 2005 - 12:56 AM
I hate Norton though, because it uses up too much system resources and it will turn itself back on if you turn it off. If you try to do something like keep it from starting with Windows, it will throw a massive tantrum, say it's been tampered with, and force you to reinstall.
And only she can set him free
And then he says to me
"Kill me now, kill me now, kill me now"
-
Check out the BattleTech wiki!
#15
Posted 28 August 2005 - 01:59 AM
I hate Norton though, because it uses up too much system resources and it will turn itself back on if you turn it off. If you try to do something like keep it from starting with Windows, it will throw a massive tantrum, say it's been tampered with, and force you to reinstall.
Yeah,... I tend to leave Norton on to keep protecting all the time. Probably has something to do with having the cable internet and always being connected. Just feel a little better that way....
#16
Posted 28 August 2005 - 02:08 AM
#17
Posted 28 August 2005 - 02:13 PM
And only she can set him free
And then he says to me
"Kill me now, kill me now, kill me now"
-
Check out the BattleTech wiki!
#18
Posted 28 August 2005 - 02:36 PM
If not himself, then he has naught.
To say the things he truly feels;
And not the words of one who kneels.
The record shows I took the blows -
And did it my way."
- My Way, Frank Sinatra
#19
Posted 29 September 2005 - 06:20 PM
#20
Posted 15 October 2005 - 11:42 PM
Just because you don't think you see it doesn't mean that it isn't there. Microshaft has a very poor security set-up in its browsers. sometimes the biggest issues are tracking cookies that you did not authorize but IE has allowed through anyway. Just check your Temporary Internet Folder and check out how many cookies you have compared to how many sites you visit regularly. A major problem with IE is that it will allow even banner ads to add cookies and adware that doesn't look like its doing anything but can localise advertisements, track internet surfing, watching e-transactions and logging your habits to web and ad companies that exist only to track peoples habits on the web.
As an aside there is also a really neat tool out there made by BillP studios called winpatrol that watches for things like that as well as a hundred other items like what programs start up at windows logon, what cookies you have and how many BHO's(browser 'helper' objects) you really have. you can find it www.winpatrol.com. they even have a freeware version that is very helpful.







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